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 02-10-2005, 21:01 Post: 105921
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I think I may of made a mistake yesterday. There is an old abandoned shack (old one loft one room house) and a garage next to my house on a vacant plot of land. I live on a dead end. I saw a guy and gal walking down the road about 20 min. till dark yesterday. I knew they were strangers. I thought they looked suspitious so I watched them till they got out of sight. My wife then called me into the back kitchen and said 2 folk just went into that garage. I got there just in time to see the 20 ish looking guy crawl thru the broken hole in the garage door and the chick follow. Hmmmm Are they going in there to blow some weed??? Are they going to start her on fire???? Nah!! I said, they are too damm old for that. They have to be seeing what they can find to steal! Wife say's, "Well you going over there?" Laughing out loud I start to get my boots on ans figure I better get my pistol, I aint as young as I used to be and would just the same shoot someone that is going to kick my ass before take a beating!
Wife say's, " Hey I mean't call the police!" Here I am, in a bind (again) What do you do? Walk over there and tell them to get the hell out? I figure one of 3 things would happen
1. They would run or make up a lie why they were there.
2. they would retaliate later when I am not home on my
house
3. He would get all testy and want to kick my ass, (then I
would have to shoot him) I would go to jail and the
chick would be screwing anouther guy, my wife would
divorce me, my kids would be fatherless.
OR
Do I take my wife's advice and call the police? I figure one of three things may happen if I do that.
1. They would come back later and vandalize my house.
2. They would get a ticket and everything would be done
3. Same as #2 but the 2 people may be just down on their luck looking to steal something valuable to sell for food?
You see I really did not give a crap what they done, its been vacant for ever and there is just some old car parts in there. Hmmm What do you do?
I walk over there and dont see anything (movement or noise) Id take my dog with but she is so old and decrepid she coulnt catch and hurt a blind/death mute rabbit. SO not wanting to stick my head into the garage I walk home thinking they moved on thru the woods. NOPE There they come walking out about 10 min. later (they must of heard my foot steps in the crunchy snow and sat still and were quite.)
Here I am standing on my deck and they see me! They look at each other and keep walking not knowing if they should run or not. They each had 2 steel rims in their hands. Now its about dark. I decide to go outside. I gets in the truck and back out shine the lights on the road. There they are sitting on the rims in the road with a little 5 year old girl with them (I did not see her before). SO what do I do now? They look like they are waiting for a car to get them cause they are a long way from any other road and there was no car parked anywhere I could see. Laughing out loud Well I figured they were just hard on their luck and I decided to not do anything about it. NOW Later that night I am thinking! Hmmm , "you dumb ass, they got balls enough to break into a garage, steal something and not worry about me, (he looks like he just got out of detention or something, pretty skinny and scruffy) and I noticed they were smoking! (*Cant be that hard on their luck) Hmmm I better call the police I say's. I look out the window again, they are gone! No car came down the road or anything. Now I am pissed at myself. I get the shotgun and take a walk outside just looking for that darn old cat Laughing out loud Dont see anything! I slept about 3 hours last night before I had to go to the picket line at 4am today.
What would of you done? I normally would of called the ploce but felt sorry for them. I may be the one that is sorry if they come back and hit my house!
I should of shot em and let the coyotes eat them (but then again I did not see the little girl) Laughing out loud
I hate the position thieves put honest hard working people in!
Was I wrong?????

The owner I have never seen but once about 5 years ago.






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 02-11-2005, 19:37 Post: 105963
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**(qoute) Tough call but the police would have been the right call! What is it to you** Thing about it is that my dad died and his house is vacant on the other side of this (or right next to it) I do have a nice boat motor in his back shed attatched to his garage but I cant get in there unless I dig the snow out, (or break the window!!!) That is what it is to me. I actually own the house now but he owed money out the ying yang on it, and he has no money available so untill I sell it I am having a hard time even paying his utlility bills (And my bills along with my house up north). I just dont want no trouble with that place. I spent 40+ days fixing it up and getting it perefect for sale.
*** (qoute) I may have said something to them like, "maybe you are having hard times so I am going to let you slide this time since that stuff is abandoned, but don't let me see you around here again, there will be harsh consequences***
Laughing out loud That is just about the exact words I was going to use when I walked over there and did not see them anymore.!

***(qoute)Walk out with gun in hand and greet them. Be polite. Be firm. Be Somebody***
Here lie's the problems. My dad was a Law officer (narcotic detective) has put away many many folks and there are many folks out there that dont like him. (Like I said, he is dead now) Problem is that I live next door to him (or his old house) I have the same name as him except for the middle initial. See where this is going? See why I need to evaluate people walking thru the woods next to my house That I have never seen before? Yes I may be a bit paranoid but I do hae 3 kids to worry about. If you sat in jail for 5-20 years and were "set up" in a drug sting by a cop, You may have some retribution or pent up energy towards the guy or his family that done this to you? (Not all the crimminals but it is a reality)
The other thing that looms in my head is what happened in Wisconsin last fall deer hunting. The lunatic that killed 6 folks just 25 miles from my house there. I was brought up that if you are planning on approaching a person with a gun in hand and visable you better be ready to use it. Thats why I feel the conceal and carry law is worthy byt we voted it down.!
Tracer, my biggest problem is my shorter than normal human being temper. I have no use for thieves. I would jusy the same plug them before I take a beating from one. I am affraid of myself and what I may get myself into. Yes I have called the police many times. Yes I have had my wiring harness ripped from under my trailers by the kids I called on. (I found 5 arrows pointing down ward in my back yard one summer, burried 2 inches deep in hard July turf. I called and it was the neighbors kids. I have had problems since!
So no I am not one to sit back and look the other way, fact is my wife tells me I am embarresssing sometimes cause I say and act with no regaurd for people feelings. This time is a first for me, not flying off the handle and doing something. Now that my dad is dead (on one side of me and the problem neighbors house (on the other side) is vacant also most of the time (they are split and the house is for sale and both have moved out) I am pretty much issolated here by myself for a distance on the dead end. I need to take care of my buisness for I have no one to come to my aid (except for 911) if needed.

The best thing that could happen is they come back for more and I call the police. I am making out a report this weekend and turning it in so it is on record. (I just dont want them to slap me for not calling before, I know one pretty good on the force and he will be pissed) We only have 5 on duty at nights so they either get here real fast (if not buisy) or your up a creek if they are.

Iowafun
Laughing out loud I remember when I used to (BACK IN) with the truck. 2 reasons.
1. If you get stuck your pointed in the right direction
to get back on to solid ground and see where you are going.
2. If some one approached ypu on a dead end your not in a postiion of needing to turn around. Yep He was probably up to no good.
DSG
My feelings exactly, but like I said I am affraid of myself and what I am capable of in my frame of mind.
Take that statement I just made as a sign of inteligence and not a stupid idiot! I dont want myself in that position cause I know what I am capable of but at the same time I dont want pent up energy in me either, my wife tells me I am getting much better at "thinking" before I act the older I get. I want to continue that trend beacuse in the old days I would of been in his face in about 2 seconds. (remember those days?)
Hey thanks for letting me vent and the talk here was helpful if this ever occurs again in the near future.






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 02-23-2005, 20:14 Post: 106713
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Funny thing is that we moves out of the city and back to the county to get away from this crap. I am seriously considering moving to my other house. Maine dont look to bad either Laughing out loud.
Now I feel like a ass cause there has been a huge rash of breakins about 5 miles from me. Alot of these smaller buisnesses (resturants, bars, small offices) just on the edge of our city have been broke into that last 5 weeks or so. They have not caught them yet. Here I sit thinking,"I wonder if these jack ases are responsible for all those break ins and I did not call the police. I think it is the first time I have never done anything about a violation I have seen. Me pretty ashamed of myself






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 02-26-2005, 11:08 Post: 106851
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The dogs are with out a dought the best determent you can have. Not many folk like messing with any dog that is around 100# and has a mean bark. The law enforcement folk on this site I am sue will agree with this. My father used to tell me this. "Its funny how six of us policmen can have a guy surrounded and will be telling him to lay down on his belly (to arrest him). And this guy is hell bent on fighting all of us. Guys will tell us come on! I'll kick all your asses. Then you have 1 canine officer come in to a situation with his dog Kujo. and all is done. He said you would not believe how affraid most guys are of one dog.
I tend to believe that whetther it is the unpredictability of that dog or what I dont know but it sure seams to be true.
If I had the choice between a alarm system and a dog the dog would win IMO. Think about it, the darn dog sleeps half the day and at night is as bored as can be. Most are just waiting to hear some noise or form of life in or around the house Laughing out loud. (Kinda like we used to be when we were younger) My dog makes me feel safe. Besides a alarm system cant lick your toes. (YUK!)
Sorry that was an overshare!






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